self-reproducing nature to ("the historical necessity of progress towards Let me mention the change enacted by Christianity. Peterson and iek represent a basic fact of intellectual life in the twenty-first century: we are defined by our enemies. he event was billed as the debate of the century, The Rumble in the Realm of the Mind, and it did have the feel of a heavyweight boxing match: Jordan Peterson, local boy, against the slapdash Slovenian, Jordan Peterson, Canadian psychology professor and author. Billed as "The Debate My point is that it looked like Peterson wasn't interested in replaying that kind of thing especially, not with Zizek. Furthermore, I find it very hard to ground todays inequalities as they are documented for example by Piketty in his book to ground todays inequalities in different competencies. intellectuals). Id like the share the debate with a hearing impaired friend. Hitler provided a story, a plot, which was precisely that of a Jewish plot: we are in this mess because of the Jews. My hero is here a black lady, Tarana Burke, who created the #MeToo campaign more than a decade ago. Journal articles: 'Marxism in politics, economy and philosophy with its constellation of thinkers. In Peterson's defense, he did manage to stay much closer to the actual topic of the debate, while Zizek jumped wildly between a dizzying number of subjects. The strange bronze artifact perplexed scholars for more than a century, including how it traveled so far from home. statement. [1] They debated about the merits of regulated capitalism. If the academic left is all-powerful, they get to indulge in their victimization. Cookie Notice Let me mention just the idea that is floating around of solar radiation management, the continuous massive dispersal of aerosols into our atmosphere, to reflect and absorb sunlight, and thus cool the planet. [15], Several publications, such as Current Affairs, The Guardian and Jacobin, criticized Peterson for being uninformed on Marxism and seemingly ill-prepared for the debate. Peterson blamed cultural Marxism for phenomena like the movement to respect gender-neutral pronouns which, in his view, undermines freedom of speech. April 20, 2019. [5] He also criticized Peterson's discussion of "cultural Marxism", stating that "his crazy conspiracy theory about LGBT+ rights and #MeToo as the final offshoots of the Marxist project to destroy the West is, of course, ridiculous. iek.uk - "If you have a good theory, forget about the reality." 2 Piano Mono - moshimo sound design. MICHAEL FEDOROVSKY 1* 1* Investigador Independiente y ensayista. Most of the attacks on me are now precisely from left liberals. El debate entre iek y Peterson se produjo en Toronto, Canad. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! In Stalinism, precisely they were not kept apart, while already in Ancient Greece they knew they had to be kept apart, which is why the popular way was even combined with lottery often. Why do I still cling to this cursed name when I know and fully admit that the 20th century Communist project in all its failure, how it failed, giving birth to new forms of murderous terror. While the two take different political stances, both have been known to rail against political correctness and found that issue in common. He wandered between the Paleolithic period and small business management, appearing to know as little about the former as the latter. So, how to act? And what about foreign interventions in Iraq and Syria, or by our proxies like Saudi Arabia in Yemen? He seemed, in person, quite gentle. Aquella vez me parecieron ms slidos los argumentos del primero. We're in for quite a night a quick word about format. If Peterson was an ill-prepared prof, iek was a columnist stitching together a bunch of 1,000-worders. But, it is instantly clear how this self-denigration brings a profit of its own. Deep underwater, temperatures are close to freezing and the pressure is 1,000 times higher than at sea level. [15][16] On the example of China, he tried to connect happiness, capitalism, and Marxism as well criticize China itself[16] and asserted that "less hierarchical, more egalitarian social structure would stand to produce great amounts of this auxiliary happiness-runoff". I have included my method and aims in a Note at the end of the transcript. Transcript of Zizek vs. Peterson Discussing "Happiness, Capitalism vs. Marxism" April 23, 2019 April 25, 2019 Emily I present a transcript of the Zizek vs. Peterson discussion. "Qu produce ms felicidad, el marxismo o el capitalismo?". We are never just instruments of some higher cause. Born in France, Delphine Minoui lived in Tehran for 10 years to understand her grandparents country from the inside. He is now a, Professor at the Institute of Sociology and Philosophy at the University of Ljubljana, and the Director of, the Birbeck Institute for the Humanities at the University of London. Capitalism threatens the commons due to its I hope reading the debate will help me understand the arguments better. The Peterson-iek encounter was the ultra-rare case of a debate in 2019 that was perhaps too civil. your opponent's ideas. Weeks before the debate began, I already saw many similarities between Zizek and Peterson, such as their views on struggle, their stance against political correctness, and the problem on ideology. I'd say this reminds me a lot of what I've seen from him Tonight, "philosopher" Slavoj iek will debate "psychologist" Jordan Peterson in Toronto, ostensibly on the subject of Capitalism vs. Marxism. It also helps to put Zizek's ideas and role in modern political discussion in . Bonus: Zizek on the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Zizek on the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Peterson debate Transcript? : r/zizek - reddit Transcript of Zizek vs. Peterson Discussing - True Falsehoods I would like to refer to a classic Daniel Bell, Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism written back in 1976, where the author argues that the unbounded drive of modern capitalism undermines the moral foundations of the original protestant ethics. Aspen Ideas Festival: From the Barricades of the Culture Wars Transcript Transcripts 2018-09-25T15:05:00-04:00. [, moderator, president of Ralston College, Doctor Stephen Blackwood. First of all it's much shorter than Peterson Vs Harris. Plus, the radical measures advocated by some ecologists can themselves trigger new catastrophes. Slavoj iek on His Stubborn Attachment to Communism (Ep. 84 - BONUS) Learn how your comment data is processed. Once traditional authority loses its substantial power, it is not possible to return to it. it, or in the effort to actualise our inner potentials. And Peterson agreed with him: It is not obvious to me that we can solve the problems that confront us. They are both self-described radical pessimists, about people and the world. One of the most stupid wisdoms and theyre mostly stupid is An enemy is just a story whose story you have not heard. Orthodoxy, by G. K. Chesterton. Finally, the common space of humanity itself. On the Zizek-Peterson 'debate' - Medium Studies suggest that meditation can quiet the restless brain. The Toronto Debate: Jordan Peterson and Slavoj iek on Ethics and However, I would like to add here a couple of qualifications. And is not the standard, but the true unconstrained consumption in all these creeps here? So, where does Communism, just to conclude, where does Communism enter here? This is why as many perspicuous philosophers clearly saw, evil is profoundly spiritual, in some sense more spiritual than goodness. Peterson is his usual intensely-driven professorial self, which I personally The people who laugh might do it that way, he replied. [22], Der Spiegel concluded that iek won the debate clearly, describing Peterson as "vain enough to show up to an artillery charge with a pocket knife". Die Analyse dieser Figur findet mit starkem Bezug zur Etablierung She observed in a recent critical note that in the years since the movement began it deployed an unwavering obsession with the perpetrators. It seems that our countries are run relatively well, but is the mess the so-called rogue countries find themselves in not connected to how we interact with them? Iran is a land of contradictions where oppression and freedom uneasily coexist. SLAVOJ IEK: . This is I think now comes the problematic part for some of you maybe the problem with political correctness. what the debate ended up being. Peterson opens with a 30-minutes speech where he criticizes the communist Believers call him God the Father. But can God be called a man? He gave a minor history of the French critical theorists who transposed categories of class oppression for group oppression in the 1960s. If we learned anything from psychoanalysis, its that we humans are very creative in sabotaging our pursuit of happiness. It was billed as a meeting of titans and that it was not. cordial and respectful, something I really appreciated. Or, they were making wine in the usual way, then something went wrong with fermentation and so they began to produce champagne and so on. Why would the proletariat be more capable of leading? This page has been accessed 35,754 times. Peterson and Zizek Debate - transcribed by John Li - johnmhli@berkeley.edu - 916 623 5512 - https://chicago.academia.edu/JohnLi - // I used both voice to text software and then a manual read through - there are still plenty of transcription errors I haven't caught and corrected (I didn't expect this to come out to be over 20 pages and how Thats the big of ideologies how to make good, decent people do horrible things. First, a brief introductory remark. (Chinas success makes a joke out of the whole premise of the debate: the old-fashioned distinction between communism and capitalism.) By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 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